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Lin Kuei Ominae
post Apr 27 2007, 11:06 AM
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\EDIT new version 1.1 rendered with antialiasing and no secondary upgrade pod.
It also has improved damage frames and an active anim (with damageanim) of a glowing dome in the centre of the ringrails.

Download Zip with the SHPs and art/rules.ini examples:Attached File  LKOFTWRv11.zip ( 158.13K ) Number of downloads: 978

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Cameos: MG, Single Cannon, Double Cannon, SAM, Artillery, Disruptor (following Denmon0728 example of good cameos for the old version wink1.gif )
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The turrets: MG, Single Cannon, Double Cannon, SAM, Artillery, Disruptor
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\EDIT the old version below
Hi after being a while on vacation here sth new from me.

As written in the Thread Upgradable Defense Building with 2 or more Turrets in the advanced editing forum i tried to make a Base Defense with 2 upgrades/Turrets.

Even if i didn't get it work, because i can't even make a duplicate of the Component Tower (the CTWR seems to be hard coded), i still made the Heavy Base Defense, because i hate the weakness of the ctwr (i spend much money for a good turret but only few shots are needed to get it destroyed, making the ctwr useless in my eyes).

I also tried it with the code from the GDI upgrade Centre, but the main problem is, that even if those upgrades can have each his own weapon, they can't have any Turret animation. Only looped animations are working for this. Thats why this idea isn't usable too.

At least i made for my little mod 5 different tower with each having a different turret. I know it's not perfect, but since it isn't possible in an other way, or someone finds a better one i leave it.

OK, here is the result
It's a 2x2 Base Defense with 5 different Turrets. MG, Single Cannon, Double Cannon, Missile Turret and Artillery turret.
The main (Primary) Turret is turning on 2 big metal rings going aroung the main building. The Secondary Turret (not done yet) can be placed on top similar to the ctwr upgrades.

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Zip with all shp's and art.ini/rules.ini code example:Attached File  LKOftwr.zip ( 98.17K ) Number of downloads: 392
the example code includes code for 5 towers with fixed installed turrets and the not working code for the upgradeable tower.
Denmon0728 made some better cameos. These you can find HERE

Note: i didn't made the secondary upgrades yet. i will make them later \EDIT (no i don't think i will make secondary upgrades anymore)

Final Note: I hope someone finds out how to make it work with 2 upgradable turrets and post his/her solution here. Even a solution for only 1 upgrade would make me happy because i didn't even get this work without replacing the original ctwr. (in addition the replacement of the ctwr would only allow 3 different turret images, seems to be hardcoded too)

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post Apr 28 2007, 02:04 AM
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i've seen these before, but any way good stuff, i like these the most out of all your shps cool.gif


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post Oct 2 2007, 10:11 PM
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version 1.1 finished and uploaded
it has no more a secondary upgrade pod and the art/rules.ini example shows them as seperate buildings. 1 Building for each turret.

I think now it is more suitable for mods and hasn't this unfinished status anymore. And as a compensation therefor that it took quite long, i made an extra turret the "Disruptor Turret".

I hope this makes an end to weak GDI Base Defenses. laugh.gif

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wow, this is complete OWNAGE, LKO. Nice work! smile.gif


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post Oct 3 2007, 05:27 PM
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Yay, I was hoping for a remake of this, way cool LKO biggrin.gif, though it's a RA2 styled buildup


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Indeed it is, Machine tongue.gif

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feels like the center is lacking something now maybe where the upgrade pad used to be maybe put a control room?


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post Oct 5 2007, 01:11 AM
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the problem is, if i make a higher "thing" than the dome in the centre, i have to remake all the turrets too. Because they have to be hidden by the "thing" while facing north. (like the old version turrets having a black area where the upgrade pod is located). But with antialiasing i can't render the turret and mask it with the "thing"s 3dmodel (or it antialiases into the "thing"s 3dmodel), so i have to work on the final pictures frame by frame and cut out the "thing"s silhouette. And that is too much work.
So no third version from me.
But if you want you can remove the activeanim and replace it by your own. Then all you have to do is to adjust all the turrets. wink1.gif

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So the shape can has to remain the same correct? I's just fill it in with GDI colours and put a 4 pixel light on it XD


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This is so awesome that I want it, but then again, I have no use for it in my mod :( It is too "heavy" for my conception of GDI. Maybe a special "General" or House might have a use for it.
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It is too "heavy" for my conception of GDI


GDI ain't hardcore enough for you? tongue.gif
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QUOTE (Team Black @ Oct 6 2007, 05:28 PM) *
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You just proved my point. GDI lies on heavy units, not heavy defenses.
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QUOTE (Omen @ Oct 6 2007, 02:31 PM) *
not heavy defenses.


RPG tower?


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QUOTE (Corsair @ Oct 12 2007, 07:49 PM) *
RPG tower?


The RPG tower isn't a heavy defense, as it's quite fragile. Though GDI had heavy defenses in dawn, and it has heavy defenses in TW; but GDI's defenses have been allways significantly weaker than Nod's defenses.


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Machine is correct. Besides, the Adv. Guard Tower in Dawn wasn't very heavy defense either, it was just damn good against infantry and air units.
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I found the advanced guard tower more effective then the obalisk in defence if you ask me innocent.gif


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Oh my... LKO, this owns! Awesome work ^_^


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QUOTE (Rico @ Oct 15 2007, 04:36 AM) *
I found the advanced guard tower more effective then the obalisk in defence if you ask me innocent.gif


Apparently you haven't played TD enough. Try to put an obelisk vs adv. guard tower, and see what happens. Obelisk looses only a half of it's health. You may think that the adv. guard tower is more effective because Nod only possesses light units that are vulnerable to the tower's missiles.

Offtopic:

Anyone ever found out where exactly adv. guard tower launches its missiles? It's hard to see any place in the structure that could be a missile launching site (the missiles just pop out of the thin air above the tower)...
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QUOTE (Omen @ Oct 15 2007, 11:36 PM) *
Apparently you haven't played TD enough. Try to put an obelisk vs adv. guard tower, and see what happens. Obelisk looses only a half of it's health. You may think that the adv. guard tower is more effective because Nod only possesses light units that are vulnerable to the tower's missiles.

Offtopic:

Anyone ever found out where exactly adv. guard tower launches its missiles? It's hard to see any place in the structure that could be a missile launching site (the missiles just pop out of the thin air above the tower)...

I did say in defence, not in killing eachother huh.gif


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post Oct 15 2007, 02:19 PM
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offtopic but
yep, adv guard tower was in defense stronger due to area effect and fast firerate, however very inaccurate.

Afaik the missiles were fired from the 3 side-hatches at the top.

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Where did you get that image? blink.gif And btw, the missile hatches I think you are referring into appear light blue in the game, which create an illusion of windows....or are they windows?
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google "C&C advanced guard tower". wink1.gif right, on some pics they look like windows, but ingame for me those are more metal blue than windows blue. If they are indeed windows, there is no place where the missile could come from. Maybe an invisible hatch in the roof, so that the missiles would actually start vertical, but it was too complicated to implement in TD?


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Ahem. Topic split guys?

Also, that image owns so much. I want more!


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If split, name it as "The Mystery of The Adv. Guard Tower" tongue.gif
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these look very good, but i would like to know what the coding for the weapons are...plz.


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they're included in the download, if you read the post


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no, not the weapons. I've put only the building example codes in the ini. I thought if someone is able to add this building he/she is also able to create some new weapons for this. (just a copy paste of an original weapon with some changes)

However, my weapons are a bit too comprehensive to put in the example, since they use cluster/split and art.ini debris logics.
That's why you have to make your own weapons sniper and change the primary/secondary keys in my example code.

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lol ya you are good at making a original weapons systems remember that missile that went in circles? lol.gif


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oh, i was thinking about making my own but i wanted to know how you balanced out your weapons.


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Sorry for posting so late but I've got 2 questions.

1. The game seems to crash when I build the MG tower can it be art related or is it the rules?
EDIT: please ignore this TS seems to crasch after a while no matter what I do + graphical issues: Hovercraft with Titan legs and titan with an antenna with 2 meters with.

2. Is it possible to let walls "attach" to the fortress towers like they do with the gates/plug towers?
EDIT: is it this? WallTower=GACTWR,GAFTWRMG

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