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 Oct 12 2009, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE (mg1999 @ Oct 12 2009, 04:08 PM)  What I'm trying to have happen is make it so that If the GDI construction yard only is destroyed then its game over. Tru using the "No factories left" or "attached object destroyed" events instead. If you use the "attached object destroyed" event, you'll have to attach the trigger to the Construction Yard. Note that I haven't done triggers since I made Red Death Unchained a year ago and I might not remember the events correctly, but you could try it.
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Oct 12 2009, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE (^Rampastein @ Oct 12 2009, 02:15 PM) Tru using the "No factories left" or "attached object destroyed" events instead. If you use the "attached object destroyed" event, you'll have to attach the trigger to the Construction Yard.
Note that I haven't done triggers since I made Red Death Unchained a year ago and I might not remember the events correctly, but you could try it. Cool, I tired that (no factories left) only it still says "Mission failed" when I try to play it. I'm prolly forgetting to do something. I haven't built any Task forces or Teams yet. I have my houses set. I only have two waypoints at this point in time (98 and 99 if that helps) and both sides have money. I used to know how to make some pretty tight multilayer maps so I figured I'd give a single player map a try. So I'm a noob when it comes to single player maps but I'm trying to look up tutorials and read about building a single player map. What the basics are etc...
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Oct 12 2009, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE (mg1999 @ Oct 12 2009, 04:32 PM) I only have two waypoints at this point in time (98 and 99 if that helps) and both sides have money. Well, that's your problem.  When you use the "Destroyed all" event, it triggers immediately after you start the map because GDI doesn't have any units or structures. Same thing with the "No factories left" event, since GDI has no factories placed it triggers when the mission has been started. So, to fix it, just place GDI a Construction Yard in FinalSun before testing the map.
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Oct 12 2009, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (^Rampastein @ Oct 12 2009, 04:11 PM) Well, that's your problem. When you use the "Destroyed all" event, it triggers immediately after you start the map because GDI doesn't have any units or structures. Same thing with the "No factories left" event, since GDI has no factories placed it triggers when the mission has been started. So, to fix it, just place GDI a Construction Yard in FinalSun before testing the map. I have one already. I have two bases set up, A GDI base, with one construction yard and bunch of other buildings. And a NOD base with a construction yard and a bunch of other buildings. It still says "Mission failed" When I start it. I think I'm missing something else. I'm not sure what tho.
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Oct 13 2009, 06:12 AM
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QUOTE (Team Black @ Oct 13 2009, 02:38 AM) double click the GDI conyard and attach it to the lose trigger. It should be listed under "tags""
Make the only event on that trigger "destroyed by anything" and the action "loser is... 0 GDI"
that should solve the problem Swore I responded to this, anyway It didn't work. Do I need to actually place it on the map or just attach it to the construction yard? Do I need to attach one to the nod base as well?
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Oct 13 2009, 01:15 PM
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Everything I can think of is that you've placed the base for some other house than GDI or something.. or you've made some other trigger which causes the player to lose the mission. QUOTE Do I need to actually place it on the map or just attach it to the construction yard? Do I need to attach one to the nod base as well? If you go with the "destroyed by anything" trigger, you'll need to attach the tag to the construction yard.
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Oct 13 2009, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE (Team Black @ Oct 13 2009, 04:42 PM) a bit offtopic, has anyone figured out what "the place on map" button does? Hit place on map and then you can paint celltags with the trigger attached. I thought that was common knowledge, is that not how you place your celltags?
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Oct 14 2009, 03:41 PM
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@Dudeinabox: So.. I've always put all my celltags using the menu on the left (and now, after doing lots and lots of maps I get to know a faster way.. Meh ). @mg1999: I have a few exams on this week, so either someone else will look at it or I'll do so next week.
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Oct 14 2009, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE (^Rampastein @ Oct 14 2009, 04:41 PM) @Dudeinabox: So.. I've always put all my celltags using the menu on the left (and now, after doing lots and lots of maps I get to know a faster way.. Meh ). @mg1999: I have a few exams on this week, so either someone else will look at it or I'll do so next week. Haha, I've know that since I started trying my hands at single player maps (non of which I released). I've never used the celltag function at the side because of it.
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Oct 15 2009, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE (Team Black @ Oct 13 2009, 04:42 PM) a bit offtopic, has anyone figured out what "the place on map" button does? 
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Oct 17 2009, 03:15 AM
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QUOTE (Team Black @ Oct 16 2009, 04:49 PM) HO NO YA DIDN"  HO?! TB quit trying to pimpify the Aro classic! anyways...yea..knew that it sent you to auto-celltag placement for that trigger after I started messing with triggers and clicked that and then went to go do something on the map and it threw down a celltag. Though for some reason it was about 50/50 that i'd use it to place cell tags rather than the long method...don't know why...it's much easier to do it from there.... but...back on-topic...i may take a look tomorrow as I might be in finalsun a bit. We shall see... Also i have to apologize for the slowness of the mapping section right now...we mappers have been losing interest or the ones who would be active got sucked up by a mapper eating disease called TI which doesn't host/update on Tibweb thus less mapper activity here now. Yes Aro...you know it's true... 
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Oct 17 2009, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE (Ixith @ Oct 17 2009, 06:15 AM) Also i have to apologize for the slowness of the mapping section right now...we mappers have been losing interest or the ones who would be active got sucked up by a mapper eating disease called TI which doesn't host/update on Tibweb thus less mapper activity here now. Yes Aro...you know it's true... I lost interest because people don't really care about public assets. However, I still have multiple WIPs (Red Death Unchained 1.2, a lightning/base building space fix for City in Conflict, and a whole new singleplayer map which I've made the terrain for but which lacks the triggers and all other stuff...) But these WIPs haven't had any progress for about 6 months
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Dec 20 2009, 07:11 AM
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Ka-Bumpa-Bumpy-Bumped-the-Topic-you-Bastard! First things first, I noticed a certain Team Black tried to rape an Aro classic, so for that I must respond with: OH NO HE DIDN'!! Secondly, Twisted Insurrection has now been hosted here so you don't have to worry about lack of TI updates on the TiberiumWeb side anymore, I appologize that I didn't decide to get hosted here sooner, but it seemed pointless until I was reassured by some certain members. Next point: I used to enjoy creating maps for public use and I'd still do it if Twisted Insurrection never ate up the remainders of my free time, I'd prefer to work on my mod as it will pay off more in the long run than producing a few public maps would. Back then I'd care and compete to get spotlights and what-not but now that I think about it, it seems so pointless now, a move from one forum to another with a different name isn't all that special... Last of all, ^Rampastein, you really should consider finishing off your WIP's, you're one of the few good mappers that are still around these days and it would be a shame for your work to go to waste. If you decide you're not going to finish them, why not donate them to me? Or better yet, join TI as a mapper. I've been considering using some public maps people have posted (Some of Ixith's caught my attention), but the fact is after trying it out they just don't go well with TI's new terrain, maps have to be built up from scratch for TI's terrain, any public maps for vanilla Tiberian Sun would require complete re-detailing which just isn't fun to do (speaking from experience). That's the only reason I'm not using some public maps. Not that it isn't possible to simply edit some public maps, It's just complicated to do and the original owner of the map would have an easier time doing it than I or any of the other TI mappers would, I've already got Dudeinabox and Q45 editing their best public maps for TI soil. Anyway, let me know what's crackin'. I'm still laughing at this thread by the way, and some of you call yourselves mappers. For shame...
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Dec 20 2009, 08:33 AM
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Once either TI or TO (or both) are released, who would map normal TS? Really the "flippin' sweet" terrain of either trump the TS stuff, as does gameplay. In some ways however, I believe that TO and TI signal the end of an era.
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Dec 20 2009, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE (Orac @ Dec 20 2009, 10:33 AM) Really the "flippin' sweet" terrain of either trump the TS stuff, as does gameplay. That's what personal mods are for @Aro: I've been lately programming a lot (and also had a lot of exams) and haven't had any free time for mapping, let's see if I can do something as a late Christmas / New Year present though. About getting "kidnapped" by TI like most other mappers.. well, if I finish those WIPs someday I can consider it 
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Dec 21 2009, 03:46 AM
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@Orac: I'm makin a really good (and it's HUGE 133x130) map for NORMAL TS using different triggers, it will really be a very nice map (if i ever get it completed(hopefully))
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Dec 21 2009, 08:37 PM
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well 4 a newbie map maker like me it's huge
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