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post Apr 7 2007, 07:39 PM
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I can't clean or quarantine it, the only option is to delete it.

Before I do that though I want to ask the people here who are a little more computer savvy than me, just to be sure.
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post Apr 7 2007, 07:42 PM
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eh? click in the square and then make it delete?
Edit: ten for then

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post Apr 7 2007, 08:02 PM
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eh, thanks I hadn't seen that roll.gif

I mean, if I delete it will it be deleting my iexplore.exe?
and if it does, thenwhat is the bst way to replace it?

or maybe I should just switch to firefox?


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post Apr 7 2007, 08:03 PM
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Note down the filename and path. Click delete, then find the filemanuallyand make sure it's gone. If it isn't, delete it yourself. If it tells you it is in use therefore cannot delete it, use Delete Doctor (or DOS if you are clever, but DeleteDr is easy smile.gif ) to schedule the file for deletion on reboot. Reboot, and check if its there.If its gone,cheer. If not, come back and I'll think of how else you can blast it off your Hard Drive.

Edit: Is the file the actual Iexplore.exe,or is it just in the same folder?
You should switch to firefox anyway,once you start using it you will wonder why you thought MSIE was good..

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post Apr 7 2007, 08:57 PM
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so you got a virus.. well i'd just delete it and ask for the file on here if it turns out missing smile.gif

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post Apr 7 2007, 09:07 PM
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GET RID OF MCAFEE IT IS WORTHLESS GET ANTI VIR OR AVG THEY ARE BOTH FREE


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post Apr 7 2007, 09:55 PM
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I'm actually running AVG AND Mcaffee wink1.gif
No, I'm not paying for mcaffe; Even though my trial expired, for the most part I can still use some features on it -

AVG didn't detect this virus at all, though it has detected other ones that Mcaffee didn't find. Using them

Yes, it is indeed the actual iexplore.exe,
and what is the best way to get Firefox?

Usually with this many programs, CPU usage is about 15% -the virus is probably taking up the rest. At times, it's gotten all the way to 100% and stayed there.
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post Apr 7 2007, 10:18 PM
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hmmm kinda sounds like my other computer after it got hit by a virus at the end of last year. its CPU stays high almost all the time now and its storage memory got eaten alive from the virus which is gone now but there is still lots of spyware on it that wont go away wacko.gif (yes iv tried various spyware and adware programs to get rid of all that stuff.)

oh and the best way to get firefox is by going to its website. cant remember what it is so just google it and im sure you will find it.

EDIT: ok im nice and found the site where you can dl firefox. dl it Here

BTW note down that it seems that some of our smilies have that ugly white border again >_>

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post Apr 7 2007, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE (BloodReign @ Apr 7 2007, 05:07 PM) *
GET RID OF MCAFEE IT IS WORTHLESS GET ANTI VIR OR AVG THEY ARE BOTH FREE

I get it for free since my dads in milltary tongue.gif
and why would the milltary be using sucktastic anti-virus?


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post Apr 7 2007, 11:06 PM
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and why would the milltary be using sucktastic anti-virus?

Probably because they don't run Windows on computers that are ACTUALLY important.

Delete the file permanently then reinstall IE7. You should be able to do that from Add/Remove programs. To be honest, it may only be stuff in the Windows folder but there's a feature where Windows will restore modified or deleted files to their former selves to protect the OS from idiot users. If you're lucky it'll have a backup of the file and Windows will restore the file by itself. If not, just reinstall. If it fails to reinstall, either download this version of IE (released by Google, so it comes preinstalled with the Google Toolbar) or read on.
To be brutally honest, you should really try and avoid IE, OE and Media Player since they're all fundamentally tied into the core computer. A vulnerability in any of them will result in the whole computer being vulnerable. I'm sure you've probably heard it enough, but use something like Firefox or Opera instead.


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post Apr 8 2007, 05:13 AM
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I have vista so Ill be fine hahahahahaha, not really, but it is nice...
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post Apr 8 2007, 05:20 AM
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[quote name='Clazzy' post='18823' date='Apr 8 2007, 01:06 AM']Probably because they don't run Windows on computers that are ACTUALLY important.[/quote]
Heard the British navy was going to use Windows 2000 on their naval ships....
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As for the virus: heard it before that virus scanners wanted to slap a virus warning on IEEXPLORE.EXE for some strange reason.

In any case: if you want to stay virus/malware/spyware/adware free, use Firefox. IE's ActiveX is a major pain.

I myself make use of Firefox, Thunderbird and OpenOffice.org 2.0. Apart from the MS apps being core-programs (making your whole Windows vulnerable) they are also targeted a lot more often by virusses.

I don't use a virus scanner...

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post Apr 8 2007, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (BloodReign @ Apr 7 2007, 11:07 PM) *
GET RID OF MCAFEE IT IS WORTHLESS GET ANTI VIR OR AVG THEY ARE BOTH FREE

WHAT DIT YOU SAID??? It isn't!! I use it, and it protected me already against 12 viruses, 8 were trojans confused.gif.
It isn't just normal McAfee, but McAfee Enterprise. Licensed. It works great. I love that On-Acces scanner. If I just had to scan my system every week... OMG... Only scanning those 30 GB (75% of my total HDD Capacity) takes 5 hours. It also scans inside compressed files, and coded stuff.

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post Apr 8 2007, 01:49 PM
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avg does that too but it scans my entire 25 gig hard drive in less than 1/2 an hour


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post Apr 8 2007, 03:12 PM
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Eh... system specs plz...
I think there will be the diference


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post Apr 8 2007, 03:47 PM
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OK I downloaded firefox, and I tried to delete Iexplore.exe using mcaffee, Creagor's deletedoctor, Add/remove programs, and manually (several times each).
None of them worked.
Then I decided to start fooling around, and it got kind of interesting. I renamed iexplore to iexpflore, and a brand new iexplore.exe appeared out of nowhere!
then renamed the new one to iexplgore.exe, and another one appeared!
I deleted them all, then a new one was made once again...
Then I copied the TS game.exe and named it iexplore.exe to try and replace the file. then 10 seconds later, the icon changed into the ie icon, and when I selected it, IE started up wacko.gif

Then I ran the virus scan again, and I guess it did the trick XD
I did task manager, and my CPU usage was back down to normal %15

I hope that's the end of the story then, time will tell unsure.gif ...

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post Apr 8 2007, 04:26 PM
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I got n Anti Virus it is running in the background. No annoying messages when I try to start a game. It uses nearly no ram and it protects me from everything.

[sarcasm]That was on topic[\sarcasm]

It's good to see Trojan is gone. smile.gif


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Uhh, no. If iexplore.exe was being replaced each time, then the virus is somewhere else.


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post Apr 8 2007, 06:50 PM
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it could be the same error that happened when ppl with nod32 tried to download novus ordo (that hapened me 2)


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post Apr 8 2007, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE (D2K)
Uhh, no. If iexplore.exe was being replaced each time, then the virus is somewhere else.


I ran full virus checks with both Mcaffee and AVG, and nothing was found...No CPU problems either. No signs of the virus anywhere wacko.gif

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there's a feature where Windows will restore modified or deleted files to their former selves to protect the OS from idiot users. If you're lucky it'll have a backup of the file and Windows will restore the file by itself.


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post Apr 9 2007, 01:18 AM
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if there are no virus, update the anti virus or simply dont worry


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post Apr 9 2007, 06:47 PM
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Lol, that's the funniest damn thing, replacing the real iexplore.exe with a renamed game.exe, then Windows replacing it. lol.gif

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post Apr 10 2007, 08:18 PM
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well the virus came back roll.gif
i couldn't do a magical file replace like last time, because the file wouldn't be deleted at ALL
I renamed it though and made it a text file, and called it "infected file.txt", though I still can't delete it

So yea I did the search, and no infected files were found anywhere. Well, AVG picked up a virus in firefox, but it was dealt with.

We'll hope this time that it's the end

Later I'll try to put it on a floppy disc or something later, and throw it out. I have like 800 floppies, they've gotta be good for SOMETHING

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Maybe try other antivirus programs, see if they can deal with it. AntiVir, a NOD32 trial, or a Kaspersky trial are your best options IMO. wink1.gif


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post Apr 10 2007, 09:28 PM
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or maybe is a new virus and no the last one


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post Apr 18 2007, 05:03 PM
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Well as far as I can tell, the virus is gone. . . however, my CPU has been flipping out on me lately, going from %50-%100. What is going on here?

geez, nothing more annoying than having a dual core processor with a gig of memory, and having it all go into nowhere mad.gif

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post Apr 18 2007, 07:28 PM
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must we say it again get other virus programs! spybot nod32


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NOD32 has overkill heuristics, meaning more false-positives. Kaspersky works better, and Ad-Aware works better than Spybot (though I do like Teatimer, I wish Ad-Aware had something like that in the free version). wink1.gif

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System Idle Process is actually the amount you have just hanging out (extra cpu power)

These usually have a high processor usage on mine:

Firefox.exe
wmplayer.exe (windows media player 10, 11 doesn't use that much tbh)
ares.exe (ares p2p)
hl.exe (counterstrike)
svchost.exe (Network Management, Critical Unit)
csrss.exe (No idea, but it uses about 2-5% CPU)
cpf.exe (wireless network stuff)
msnmsgr.exe (MSN)
aim.exe (AIM)
yspr.exe (Yahoo! Anti-Spy)
avguard.exe (Avira Antivirus Guard)


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