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> Did the Soviet Union change to Nod?, And the Allies changed to GDI?
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post Feb 25 2007, 09:31 AM
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So, what happened? Thats where i'm confused. Could somebody answer that question. :wacko:


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post Feb 25 2007, 10:17 AM
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No.

The Soviet Union's collapse lead into the birth of a radical faction called "Scavengers", which was one of Nod's power posts. TheBrotherhood itself has existed the last 4000 years, perhaps more.
The Allies soon, together with UN, formed the UNGDA, or United Nations Global Defence Act, which was GDI's predecessor.
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post Feb 25 2007, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE (WorManiac @ Feb 25 2007, 11:17 AM) *
TheBrotherhood itself has existed the last 4000 years, perhaps more.

This was speculated actually, but yes, it's possible.


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post Feb 25 2007, 03:16 PM
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I always thought that the majority of Nod's early power base came out of the middle east.


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post Feb 25 2007, 05:06 PM
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The Brotherhood of Nod, an ancient and secret society claims they have been there since 1800 BC

I believe it's as true as Kane naming Tiberium not after the river, but after Tiberius Drusus Cesar. So it's up to you if you believe the Brotherhood or not.

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I always thought that the majority of Nod's early power base came out of the middle east.


No. The Brotherhood offers Peace, Unity, and Brotherhood for poor, divided, or fractured nations (African nations, for example).

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I can't believe you believe their propaganda:P


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post Feb 25 2007, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE (WorManiac @ Feb 25 2007, 18:06) *
The Brotherhood of Nod, an ancient and secret society claims they have been there since 1800 BC

Indeed; they claim to have been there since 1800 BC. I wouldn't have believed it at all if Ishmael (from Petroglyph) wouldn't have confirmed that in their story (probably not EA's) Kane really is Caïn (Adam's son) and really did kill his brother. But if it's true the Brotherhood of Nod were there since 1800 BC, why would they wait until the 20th century to attempt to take over? It's true the soviets gave them the means to do so (the chaos created by the Great World War II -Red Alert- gave Nod the opportunity to emerge, weather the soviets would win or lose), but they should have had many other opportunities throughout history.
QUOTE (WorManiac @ Feb 25 2007, 18:06)
No. The Brotherhood offers Peace, Unity, and Brotherhood for poor, divided, or fractured nations (African nations, for example).

Like Orca Commander said, that's just propaganda. Maybe a part of Nod has those intentions, thinking that's what they're fighting for, but the majority and Kane's intentions are certainly different.
If you need proof, just look at some of the FMV's from Red Alert and Tiberian Dawn...
In Red Alert Kane was Stallin's right hand, meaning a lot of Stallin's actions were actually Kane's idea's. Stallin also whiped out villages just to test weapons and had no mercy for women or children and obviously Kane couldn't care less about them either. Also, in the final Soviet FMV Kane takes control of the soviets by shooting Nadia after she poisoned Stallin (with his knowlage). It's never actually said or confirmed that that's what Kane is doing, but to me it seems obvious; with Stallin dead, Kane as Stallin's right hand would take his place and would have the entire Soviet army at his disposal (if this would have happened, they would have became part of Nod and Nod would have been unstoppable in Tiberian Dawn). Kane also had a perfect alibi: He shot Nadia when he found out she killed Stallin.
If this isn't enough, in TD Kane lets Nod wipe out a village and then gets the news guy to blame GDI on the news (after which he shoots the camera when it appears still to be rolling when he's talking to the news guy).


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post Feb 26 2007, 04:09 PM
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I know it's propaganda. One of Brotherhood's key ways to get power is to brainwash people (not literally) and feed them international false propaganda.

But now that we moved to speak about the age of the Brotherhood...did you know it was originally a small society that acted as the guardians for Kane? remember in the bible, as God promised for Kane that whoever kills him, would be punished seven times (or something like that). Of course he needed guardians in the desert. What if the Brotherhood grew large enough, into a global organisation, only as late as the 20th century?

And if I'm correct, I read somewhere, perhaps from C&C encyclopedia, that troughout the history, all remarkable empires and organizations were corrupted by Nod, and Kane always had his hand inside these organizations.

@Orcacommander: why do you believe GDI propaganda? :wink1:
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post Feb 26 2007, 04:49 PM
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Someone must've went back in time like Einstein did in RA to try and remove Cain/Kane (maybe thinking that without him the world would've been better) instead, Kane came to the present & started his plan to destroy the world.

it would also explain Kane's age, because Biblically people back then lived to about 900 years old.

IDK I just made that up just now..

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post Feb 26 2007, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE (WorManiac @ Feb 26 2007, 11:09 AM) *
@Orcacommander: why do you believe GDI propaganda? :wink1:


I believe their actions not their propaganda.


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post Feb 27 2007, 01:47 PM
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Meh, if GDI and Nod were real, I'd join Nod. GDI are a symbol of one ancient society, which had their finger in all major wars since 3000 BC. No, I'm not talking about the Jews. I'm talking about priests and religion. GDI are their army - they fight to preserve the Order, which has reigned for milenias. Nod, despigte being cruel are better. Besides, when Kane dies, the Brotherhood will surelly be less agressive.


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post Feb 27 2007, 01:59 PM
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I believe their actions not their propaganda.


Well, their public actions are a part of their propaganda. Who knows what lies in their hidden archives?
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post Mar 1 2007, 12:14 AM
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No doubts, both GDI and Nod have skeletons in their closet

Nod just has a habit of letting everyone know about them

I'd join GDI, though; I don't think GDI would launch a Tiberium Missile lol.gif

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post Mar 1 2007, 01:28 AM
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mmnn... but how does kane to can stay in all the times if a human can live only like 100 years :confused1:

hes is like a guy who came from space and uses something like the tacitus to can live the eternity?


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