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> Merge Carno's RA 1.5?, An idea for a theme change
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post Aug 6 2007, 12:27 AM
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Read this topic first

i've been looking into alternatives for the over-cliche CNC3 mod theme - everybody's making mods following the same idea, and it's becoming pretty boring, nothing very special at all...
I know RA 1.5 doesn't have much to boast at this point, but it's something we can work off of.

if we do merge these projects, Carnotauros won't be moderating it (but will still have equal rights as everyone to voice their ideas).

My idea is that it doesn't follow any strict canon of the CNC story, whether or not RA is connected to Tiberim and what-not. . .
it's become too difficult and frustrating to try and link everything together. So why bother? What we're aiming for is gameplay, and for that we're combining elements from both RA1 and RA2 (as much as is possible in the TS engine.
Now, we're not going to be afraid to color outside the lines a little with the story. We've all pretty much agreed that CNC's story is ruined forever, and there's little sense to try and connect everything at this point since EA took it into their own hands. The word of Ishmael isn't the word of God, people, and it's really being a bugger keeping up with "What would Westwood do?" and all that.
The truth is, we'll never know. So stop looking. CNC is whatever you want it to be, so let's just break out of the box and do something original with it.

Or you can vote "no" and stick with the same cliche boring mod that every other mod is based on. Quite honestly we wouldn't be abandoning any of our previous work, because there's little actual work that we've done for this mod, except for TSN's logo - which can pretty easily pass for a soviet dude anyways if we wanted it to.

Gimme some input OK

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post Aug 6 2007, 03:26 AM
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I don't like the RA1.5 idea, personally I'd keep this mod separate, and if we don't want to go with the over-used C&C3 idea we could come up with something different, i was thinking we keep it as the scrin invasion, particularly because i wan to see my story go somewhere and if we take away the sequal theme then all the work I've gone will be wasted, i don't want to sound selfish but i've done 90% of the concept art on this as well as the story. if we REALLY want to change the comunity mod then make a new one but keep this one, there is nothing wrong with having more then one community project in fact i would much prefer to have mods based on feedback and members then a small group doing what they want. seriously though, keep this mod as it is, if you don't want to run it TB we'll find someone new, if all else fails I'll run it (but i can't mod so it would be a figurehead position) but please lets at least try to keep this going.


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post Aug 6 2007, 01:57 PM
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I'd prefer to keep the entire mod intact.


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post Aug 6 2007, 02:44 PM
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About the theme of the community being cliché... I'd disagree. Especially on the first part that's focused around the Scrin and Scrin rebels.

I personally don't have anything about making the mod completely unique however, but I don't see what RA1.5 has to do with this... I personally wouldn't want the mod to be RA-themed at all.
Still, if we want this mod to be completely unique from other mods, how about focusing it on a war between the Scrin and the martians and a war between the Scrin and the Scrin rebels? The war between the Scrin and the Martians would occur before there were humans on Earth (possibly at the time of Dinosaurs... Maybe we could even link the TD dinosaurs to the story somehow tongue.gif). So this way there would be no GDI and no Nod; just the Martians and the Scrin (for Skirmish that is; I imagine the Scrin rebels to be a singleplayer-only faction).

There are of course different options to make the mod unique. Maybe we could make the mod link the Matrix to C&C tongue.gif (actually that could work with CABAL and everything... The Matrix would basicly be the sequel to C&C).
Another option is of course to just make the mod completely unrelated to C&C.


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post Aug 6 2007, 04:11 PM
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Well Bittah, you've made some good points... Scrin vs. Scrin Rebels is pretty unique.
One thing I'd really like to change though is not to make "Westwood's Intentions" thing mandatory, for the reasons I already mentioned..

I'm going to wait for a few more votes to finalize the verdict, then I'll close


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post Aug 6 2007, 05:45 PM
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IMO, the Tiberium theme is overused. Honestly, how many mods try to do the same thing, moreso? Drag on the Firestorm world...

TS:R
C&C3(Rico's mod)
TO
TS:C
TS:V
TS:3.0

God knows the others at PPM...all I remember offhand are my mod, 3.0, from PPM...

still, lets try do something GOOD! Why not RA3? Its never been done before? Not 'Westwoodz way' or anything. Yuri's dead, so there no Mind Control(A few dead Masterminds laying around is fine, though.). So why not do what all RA2 mods dont do? Make RA3? dance.gif


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post Aug 6 2007, 06:08 PM
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Well, like I just said, I'm rather against an RA themed mod. Aside from that I think the community mod should have a somewhat serious theme and shouldn't be a joke...
Because let's face it, RA2's story was a joke (and so are its graphics actually, but that's not what this is about). Assuming that with an RA3 mod you mean a sequel to RA2, that would mean that an RA3 mod would also have to be joke (a sequel to a joke will always be a joke... Unless you start ignoring things).

By the way way, even though a mod that ties C&C and The Matrix together was initially a joke, I actually do see it as a decent option. It could actually turn into a serious mod with a good story that ties together nicely (hell, the Scrin could also even be involved).

A mod based around the Matrians and the Scrin still gets my preference though.


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post Aug 6 2007, 06:21 PM
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Well you dont have to build it as a joke. Look at 1.5. I am ignoring RA1's retarded screwups(maps, ecetera), and pretending that this is very much so SPARTAAAAAA...er..yes, a good RA2. Whats wrong with a good Lolworth game, anyways?


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post Aug 6 2007, 06:27 PM
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I know that there are a lot of people who play games to get a laugh, but I personally hate it... There are comedy movies and the like for that.


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post Aug 6 2007, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE (Carnotaurus @ Aug 6 2007, 01:45 PM) *
still, lets try do something GOOD! Why not RA3? Its never been done before? Not 'Westwoodz way' or anything. Yuri's dead, so there no Mind Control(A few dead Masterminds laying around is fine, though.). So why not do what all RA2 mods dont do? Make RA3? dance.gif


lol personally i agree there should be a RA3 mod since none of the RA2 modders seem to like the idea of expanding on to a story it would be a first. Though I think that would/ should be done on the RA2/YR engine and should be separate from the Tibweb Community mod.

as for the idea of Scrin vs Martians or something of that like....sure why not. We need something that is completely different from other TS mods that expand the normal storyline. So how about during the same time that GDI and Nod are fighting, the Scrin is making its way towards Earth and fighting another faction.
just an idea o' course.


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post Aug 7 2007, 05:38 PM
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OK sorry Carno but feedback says RA 1.5 is a no-go.


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post Aug 7 2007, 05:53 PM
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I don't know what's going on, but it seems like my post and I believe also Lightstorm's got merged with Ixith's... I removed the posts that were merged with Ixith's from his post, so here they are again.
QUOTE (Ixith)
as for the idea of Scrin vs Martians or something of that like....sure why not. We need something that is completely different from other TS mods that expand the normal storyline. So how about during the same time that GDI and Nod are fighting, the Scrin is making its way towards Earth and fighting another faction.
just an idea o' course.

Actually the war between the Scrin and the Martians would have to occur like millennia's before C&C...
QUOTE (Lightstorm)
I'd agree there could be scrin fighting another faction but martians?
i think that goes against logic, i mean if they conquer Mars and Earth is RIGHT THERE then why would they wait? they would have conquered it before humans had a chance to get in the way.


I actually just wrote a small story on the events the occurred before Red Alert earlier today. I'll post a new topic topic for it and link to it...

Here you go.


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post Aug 7 2007, 05:57 PM
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yeah I did "merge posts", I guess I should've done "merge topic" wacko.gif

those posts are now in the Theme change topic

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