Climate Changes, Is it happening or not? Options

[Crash]

In my eyes it is indeed changing, only by looking at this summer; It's been raining a lot, about half of July and June I think. And the temperatur has been colder than average, I must really say that it has been quite cold myself and we've had few days with temperatures more than 25C (in fact, I think we had like one or two days) Not many days have had temperatures over 20C either, think we had like 20 days. Summary; Wetter and colder summer.

Another strange this is the hell winter we had in 2006, until February it was warm, where it started snowing, and more and more. In March we had more than 1 meter (about 3 feet) and we were loaded with a temperature topping -25'C in March. It was a hell to walk to school in that temperature December and November have had temperatures up to 10'C here the last years, the usual temperature is around 0'C. This is a satellite picture for scandinavia march 2006. Even Denmark is covered with Snow, that country usually doesn't get much snow. (and it's march!) Seems like we get both warm and cold periods, with unstable weather.

This post has been edited by CrashKing: Aug 18 2007, 10:41 PM

[wondle_donkey]

What I'm trying to say, really, is that it's a lost cause. Unless be pour trillions into stopping it, global warming WILL happen. Nobody will support that much money to solve a long-term problem because companies and governments plan for short/mid-term. When it does happen, perhaps it will just kill off a good portion of the population and fix the problem itself. Nature is good at restoring order, even after we damage it severely.

As always, Clazzy gets it. Even if we do something about global warming now, it will not be enough. Even though I am about as liberal as one can get, the line has to be drawn somewhere to actually be realistic. There is NO such thing as environment friendly fuel. If you live in the united states, you have probably already seen the commercials where people are claiming that "biodiesel is the way to save our planet." which is, of course absolute BS. Biodiesel is horribly inefficient and will in no way help us. These claims are only made to support the candidates running for election, because they know that people living in farming communities all over America (correct me if I'm wrong) will vote for whomever endorses biodiesel because they know it means more money for them.

I also heard that nonetheless, global warming was inevitable to begin with; we're just speeding up the process.

Thats somewhat true, but most of what you hear about "how the earth naturely cools and warms itself and its not our fault" is basically just standard rightist crap. At this point, anyone who thinks global warming doesn't exist shouldn't even be accounted for (as they have clearly shown themselves incapable of processing the most basic things) and the people who believe its not our fault may have a valid point, but either way, we need to do something about this, not just point fingers. We do that afterwards....