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[Bittah Commander]

ENTER THE TRAINLIGHT ZONE....erm...oh f*ck it. anyway..

Well,i was reading an old Westwood interveiw i came upon,and apparently,the Trains would be useable ingame. as civvie-owned APCs...i think it's possible to do,but i need to know how to make them Hijackable...i am not sure if its the Passive=Yes tag that prevents this,but...here is a sample of coding from the passenger car...

[TRAINCAR]
Name=Train Car
Nominal=yes ;Hmm...
Image=MONOCAR
Strength=100
Category=Transport* ;Interesting.
DeployTime=.022* ;For removing troops,i assume?
Armor=light
TechLevel=-1
Sight=5
PipScale=Passengers*
Speed=8
Crusher=yes
Owner=GDI ;This may be a problem...
AllowedToStartInMultiplayer=no
Cost=800
Points=25
ROT=5
Passengers=10* ;Ten? that's handy..
Explosion=TWLT070,S_BANG48,S_BRNL58,S_CLSN58,S_TUMU60
VoiceSelect= ;No voices,duh.
VoiceMove=
VoiceAttack=
VoiceFeedback=
MaxDebris=4
Locomotor={4A582741-9839-11d1-B709-00A024DDAFD1}
Weight=3.9
MovementRestrictedTo=Railroad ;omfg i cant move from the tracks!
Passive=yes ;?
IsTrain=yes ;Use special Train logic....
MovementZone=Crusher
ThreatPosed=0 ; This value MUST be 0 for all building addons
DamageParticleSystems=SparkSys,SmallGreySSys

Notice all the tags with *'s next to them? all of them HAVE to be attached to APC-Type units. the train seems to act as an APC AFAIK. if you have not nodiced,the train also has remapables on it...if this feature could be brought back,it would be a HUGE tactical addition to tiberian sun.(and Tunnel Train-ing. ) :thinking:

daTSchikinhed over at PPM"]You should make train tracks buildable in TS to allow troop transportation to the battlefield.. BUT also make them DESTROYABLE but not repairable.. so that enemies can attack your lines and you would have to rebuild it like in real war... and you could make an *.aud file and input it and make it say "Rail Line Under Attack."... that would be cool

You should just give the train cars on your map the Special house, which makes them enterable by everyone. Then make a script for them so that they'll stop at each train station and also automatically unload there.

Ok I have only read in the first post that Viceroid read that trains would be useable

This has nothing to do with the Train and/or train logic itself
and is still 100% achievable in both splay and mplay

The train will not be directly controlable, however as it follows/stops etc at waypoints, it will actually act like a train.

What has to be done, is adding an additional civilian side into mplay
Make it allied to '*=GDI'
or whomever you wish

This extra civilian side will funnly enough be allied to anyone who maybe GDI, if there is no GDI on the map, then it will be enemies, simple as that.

Being allied to this civilian side not only stops them attacking u, but will allow you to enter ther units

Fancy hidding a few men in the RV over ther, then shove them in
Does that building have a 'PipScale=*' then hide some men in ther (no of course they cant fire out from the building, and unless you want really long games I would suggest you make the building in question 'Nominal=false')

Wait till your civilian friends train stops at the train station (Waypoint #) jump in and off they go!

Simple as that

You should just give the traincars on your map the Special house, which makes them enterable by everyone. Then make a script for them so that they'll stop at each train station and also automaticly unload there.

Hmm, trains. I'm actually in the process of making a train-enabled map (though my TS is MIA so I can't test it).

I'm making it with three capturable "train stations" at all at train stop watpoints along the tracks. I then made the train stations and the train into a separate house, the "train house".
Then I made a trigger that if all three train stations were captured, the whole "train house" would be given to the player (like in the gdi Hammerfest mission).

In this way, the train would belong to the player, and they could use it however they wanted (either that or it would still follow the waypoints, though whichever happens it's a desired result)
It makes sense, I mean in war the sides usually capture the trains for their advantage than build new ones for themselves.

If it indeed works, it should work both singleplay and multiplay.
The map is going to rock by the way once it's finished :rockin:

I'm sure this 'll work just fine in singleplayer, but I doubt it will in multiplayer. Adding new houses on multiplayer maps usually causes the game to crash when it starts and alot of triggers only work in singleplayer; I think the trigger to give all units/buildings belonging to a certain house to another is one of those.

[Team Black]

Well the TS Demo map allows this

I was relieved to find it wasn't merely PlayerControlled=yes and [TRUCK] Speed=0.
In fact, there is no INI editing whatsoever.

after extensive testing, it looks like this is a singleplayer-only thing.

The results are the same whether or not it is the "special" house or not - in the multiplayer pic above, that is actually a NEUTRAL train, (map is uploaded below) triggered to ally GDI and Nod house (and also triggers to make GDI and Nod houses ally back).

In the singleplayer pic I allied the GDI house (player controlled=yes) with the Nod house (player controlled=no)

Niether of these tests disrupted the train from its script.

that's all the testing I'm going to do right now, that info took me some time to get as it is.
Since the player-selected-unload appears to only work in singleplayer, we're going to have to find a way to script the train to unload by itself.

There's this way I thought of, which would be making the script set a local, that would create a team for each train car on the individual waypoints..

**Script: "Set local" when locomotive reaches a waypint.
Named the local "train arrival waypoint X"
Trigger: local is set >>>create team
Team: Taskforce:1 TRAINCAR <> Script: Unload...#3

I haven't tested this thoroughly enough, and the few times I've done it, it made the train stop running its script.

There are other things to do with the set local method, perhaps it can be that the script doesn't use "Jump to line", but instead sets a local at the end of the script...
...which will trigger the locomotive to become a new team, which will follow a script to the next waypoint, unload, clear the last local, and set a new one >> local triggers a new train team etc etc.
This would take a lot of work, and I'm too lazy to look into this one right now.

One last way would be to use the Make enemy... tag, or change house to neutral.
enters way point, sets local: "change house" for attached objects (attach the train to this trigger). Perhaps making it neutral will make the AI kick the guys out of their own transports?
Then clear the local and make it trigger the train back to "Special" house.

This post has been edited by Master Blackster: Jul 11 2007, 01:58 AM

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