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Tartan Bunny
post Apr 28 2007, 02:30 AM
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I might get a new laptop with Vista.
Someone persaude/dissaude me.
Found something useful called vista transformation.
downloads the toolbars, screensaver etc. from vista.


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post May 3 2007, 05:47 PM
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The filesystem, for instance, is an unbelievable mess in every way shape and form. New users will have no idea what filesystem to use, and once they figure that out they still have to figure out where to put stuff, and how to manage all the crap that they don't care about.
In Linux, you want a place for your documents? It's called your Home folder. It's easily accessible and nicely labelled. You need to know absolutely nothing more about the filesystem hierarchy to use Linux. Since all programs are installed either through Synaptic or via .deb (or .rpm if you're so inclined) files on the internet, configuration files, binaries, images and so on are all intelligently installed in the right place. For a typical user, they don't need to pick what filesystem they want since the installer picks it for you. This is just nitpicking now. If somebody installs XP then they have to decide whether they want FAT or NTFS. It'll automatically choose NTFS for you (an Ubuntu installer will automatically pick ext3). Case closed.

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Next we've got the whole linux system in general. It should really be invisible to the user. The average user doesn't give a crap about what renders the desktop, what manages the network, and so on. They just care that it works. And with Linux, there's a good chance that it doesn't. While I don't like to say it, large parts of Linux just don't work the way they should. I can't connect to any other computer on my network from Linux. I don't know why, and I don't really care, but that's reason enough for me to stay with Windows.

And how does Linux try and tell everyone about the programs it uses? People will find out if they're interested but everyone else will just pick "Firefox Web Browser" or "GIMP Image Editor" for web browsing and image editing. It tells you what they are in the name. People who are actively interested may try and learn more but there's no forcing people to learn to find out about stuff. As for issues like not connecting to a network, that is a problem with licensing (i.e. Samba). Any driver issues are the fault of the companies who make the products because they never made any drivers for Linux. My laptop works absolutely (and I mean absolutely, wireless, bluetooth, graphics, sound, card reader, touchpad) with no flaws. My friend's desktop (custom built) runs with no issues either. Don't be so quick to blame the operating system because it isn't widespread enough just yet.

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just so that they seem different from Windows.

So you're saying every other operating system should copy Windows? NEWS FLASH: Windows isn't the baseline by which every single operating system should conform. Windows might do some things well but not everything is perfect. Different operating systems have different ideals for a perfect desktop (i.e. look at Symphony) and it's not right to say that every OS should just copy Windows. Besides, if they did then what would the point be in originality?


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- Tartan Bunny   Windows Vista   Apr 28 2007, 02:30 AM
- - gufu   All you need to know what sit's a failure whic...   Apr 28 2007, 03:34 AM
- - Roani52   Vista, the best looking OS, but the most crappy on...   Apr 28 2007, 09:02 AM
- - The DvD   I didn't have problems running anything on vis...   Apr 28 2007, 11:41 AM
- - Clazzy   In my honest, biased opinion, it's not worth i...   Apr 28 2007, 11:45 AM
|- - tomb   [quote name='Clazzy' post='20634' date='Apr 28 200...   Apr 28 2007, 07:25 PM
|- - Bittah Commander   QUOTE (tomb @ Apr 28 2007, 09:25 PM) BTW ...   Apr 28 2007, 11:50 PM
- - Roani52   I think Vista still has some buggs, but as far as ...   Apr 28 2007, 12:22 PM
- - ChielScape   the crappy thing is, DX 10 games are already out, ...   Apr 28 2007, 02:20 PM
- - Clazzy   QUOTE the crappy thing is, DX 10 games are already...   Apr 28 2007, 03:39 PM
- - ChielScape   sweet, that means i'll install 5 OSs instead o...   Apr 28 2007, 05:56 PM
- - Roani52   About DX10, Chiel I know you have it, with your 88...   Apr 28 2007, 07:15 PM
- - Clazzy   QUOTE and i thought supcom already featured DX10? ...   Apr 28 2007, 07:19 PM
- - ChielScape   vista ultimate & business run up to 128GB ram....   Apr 28 2007, 08:29 PM
- - DeathRay2K   QUOTE (ChielScape @ Apr 28 2007, 12:56 PM...   Apr 28 2007, 10:51 PM
- - ChielScape   dude... 98 had it, and i think 95 as well...   Apr 29 2007, 05:20 AM
|- - tomb   I got Home Premium (upgrade). I got it because the...   Apr 29 2007, 07:09 AM
- - ChielScape   looks usefull indeed.   Apr 29 2007, 11:50 AM
- - Bittah Commander   Ah, that's what you mean. Yeah, I agree it...   Apr 29 2007, 02:28 PM
- - ChielScape   its usefull for ppl who are as lazy as i am, and d...   Apr 29 2007, 06:25 PM
- - Sir Modsalot   Personally I don't think Vista will be worth i...   Apr 29 2007, 11:33 PM
|- - ChielScape   QUOTE (Sir Modsalot @ Apr 30 2007, 01:33 ...   Apr 30 2007, 06:30 AM
- - Tartan Bunny   might just get tranformation pack for my 2000 pc, ...   Apr 30 2007, 04:59 AM
- - Sir Modsalot   Lol, what's "ChielScape-proof" suppo...   Apr 30 2007, 08:35 AM
- - ChielScape   it not just 1 screwup. countless times i feared n...   Apr 30 2007, 01:48 PM
- - gufu   I wonder how many times I'll have to reboot co...   May 1 2007, 01:43 AM
- - confactor   I run vista and I like it. I wish I could compare ...   May 1 2007, 09:13 PM
- - ChielScape   w00t, that just justified my scepticism about vist...   May 2 2007, 07:33 AM
- - Python   Vista it worth the upgrade. I got it on my new PC...   May 2 2007, 08:28 PM
- - Sir Modsalot   Yeah, you're right, MS is dropping support for...   May 2 2007, 09:06 PM
- - Warlord   I sure hope XP doesn't get outdated fast! ...   May 2 2007, 09:17 PM
- - Clazzy   QUOTE XP will be outdated before you know it. It...   May 2 2007, 10:30 PM
|- - Sir Modsalot   QUOTE (Clazzy @ May 2 2007, 04:30 PM) Rem...   May 3 2007, 02:55 AM
- - Clazzy   It will happen, just not instantly. There's a ...   May 3 2007, 09:51 AM
- - Wes.com   OOPS did not meen to post. i,ll install Vista soo...   May 3 2007, 03:03 PM
- - DeathRay2K   I have to say, I disagree with your assertion that...   May 3 2007, 04:51 PM
- - ChielScape   i do hope your predictions become reality, clazzy....   May 3 2007, 09:15 PM
- - confactor   Hmmm I'm sure windows is going to be around fo...   May 6 2007, 04:27 AM
- - Python   First off, where the hell can you buy a Dell with ...   May 6 2007, 04:59 AM
|- - ChielScape   QUOTE (Python @ May 6 2007, 06:59 AM) Mac...   May 6 2007, 05:15 AM
- - Clazzy   QUOTE First off, where the hell can you buy a Dell...   May 6 2007, 12:03 PM
- - confactor   Some things I liked about vista: quick search fun...   May 7 2007, 12:12 AM
- - Lightstorm   just get the vista transformation i have it and if...   May 7 2007, 01:00 AM
- - Clazzy   QUOTE quick search function-instantly finds files ...   May 7 2007, 03:58 AM
- - confactor   QUOTE (Clazzy @ May 7 2007, 03:58 AM) Let...   May 7 2007, 12:13 PM
- - Clazzy   Not really. It certainly looks better than most de...   May 7 2007, 01:18 PM
- - The DvD   Something that i hope to see happening soon is tha...   May 7 2007, 06:49 PM
- - Clazzy   I can see virtualisation becoming a big thing over...   May 7 2007, 11:30 PM


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